I hate paint.

"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa) 06/30/2016 at 08:31 • Filed to: riviera

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I tried last night to start doing the two tone paint job on the Riviera by doing the hood and tops of the fenders black. I grabbed 100grit pad and a random oscillating sander and got rid of most of the surface imperfections on the hood, hit it with a coat of primer, then three coats of rustoleum gloss black as a base coat. Except it wasn’t gloss. It went on the car textured like Rhinoliner, but it was even and had decent build to it which filled in the few surface imperfections I couldn’t get out. Cool. Looks like a base coat.

Then I tried to clearcoat it. Dear god. The clear started striping like none other and refused to go on evenly, due to either the triple-digit heat and 100% humidity, or the fact I left the can sitting out in the sun for a week.

Balls.

Probably going to try the tried-and-true “rustoleum thinned out 50% and applied with a brush” technique this weekend because spraying in Kansas weather is a non-workable idea.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 08:34

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Get a rust wrap.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 06/30/2016 at 08:40

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ew

XJDano > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 08:46

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Let nature do the work for you.

Took 8 years to get it looking this good.

Paaahhhh. TINA!!

CalzoneGolem > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:00

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Polish the ever living fuck out of it.

yamahog > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:03

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Funktheduck > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:08

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Sounds really frustrating. Humidity is a huge reason I’ve never attempted any large scale painting.

Think of it this way: painting is a difficult skill just to get decent at, let alone master. You’re going through all the pain and heartache every eventual master of any skill goes through. Soon enough, neighborhood kids will be calling you sir and that one kid will only address you as sensei. Wax on, wax off.

Or, you can just say screw it, slap on some John Deere stickers and sell it at a premium.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Funktheduck 06/30/2016 at 09:16

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I’m gonna try painting it on with a foam brush, that way I can buy the paint in quart cans and thin it out. Honestly my green paint job was.. adequate, but the prep was awful, the color is awful, and the coverage in places wasn’t great, but where it was covered the paint was honestly alright.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > CalzoneGolem 06/30/2016 at 09:17

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If by “polish” you mean “600 grit orbital sander” then you might be on to something.

Funktheduck > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:21

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It’s tough. Especially tough to do if you’re doing it at home without a booth to protect from wind and debris.

Prep is huge. For my friends who rattle canned cars back in high school there was always a big difference in those that just went to town with the can and those that did sanding and filling and all that fun stuff.

Another mistake they made (myself included but on smaller projects) is trying to get full coverage on the first pass. Light layers that build will help things immensely.

OCD-CO > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:24

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Because rattle can..................

/thread...............

crowmolly > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:25

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Have a look at this:

http://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refinish/T…

Granted you are not using an HVLP gun in a booth, etc, but some of it will help a lot.

If you are spraying clear with a can trying to get a perfect finish it will take a lot of coats and will tiger stripe a lot.

A harbor freight HVLP and a compressor rental will probably go a long way with the clear. I buy and toss the HF purple guns for spraying little projects.

random001 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:25

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It’s ok, we can fix this. I need an avocado, some firecrackers, and a large Mountain Dew....

CalzoneGolem > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:30

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36 Grit

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > CalzoneGolem 06/30/2016 at 09:38

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1 grit. Just rub a large rock all over it.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > random001 06/30/2016 at 09:38

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I like where this is going

Your boy, BJR > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:39

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It looks like a depressed porpoise.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > OCD-CO 06/30/2016 at 09:40

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I can and have done far better with a rattle can, and my base coat was far better with next to no striping.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Funktheduck 06/30/2016 at 09:41

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Yeah, I did light layers with the base coat and it took four passes to get 90% coverage of the underlying paint and five passes before it covered up the areas that were sanded down to the previous paint color (white). Base coat actually looked rather good, except for the texture due to the weather making it do all sorts of nastiness.

Quadradeuce > random001 06/30/2016 at 09:44

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We don’t have an avocado...

Funktheduck > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 09:45

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I’m not patient for painting. I don’t like doing it. I want it all covered immediately and then be done with it. When I repainted the steelies on the Corolla the first two wheels I took time to properly prep and light coats according to the directions. By the third wheel I said “this is taking too long for a car I’m not keeping” and gave the last two wheels a quick cleaning and a rush spray job. A couple months later the dealership gave me $500 for it and I had my 3

yamahog > OCD-CO 06/30/2016 at 09:46

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My Blazer was rattlecan’d by the PO. it’s a 10-20ft job, depending on your eyesight, and I think you’d be hard pressed to do much better without better equipment and/or a booth.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Funktheduck 06/30/2016 at 09:59

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I don’t have the patience either, but I’m also poor. So... yeah.

random001 > Quadradeuce 06/30/2016 at 10:03

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Hmmm, this could be an issue. Is there a fish around? Live or dead, it doesn't matter...

random001 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 10:08

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Good. I also hope you like Canada, because ultimately THAT is where this is going.

Funktheduck > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 10:16

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It's funny I can't be bothered with the tedium of painting but I spent a couple hours yesterday sanding and hand sawing wood for a knife handle.

phirzcol > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 14:04

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A. Outside of temp range of paint.

B. Used differing brands of paint/type.

C. 100 grit? No other grit? (Super deep scratches.

D. No post base sanding.

E. No wipe down after base coat.

F. Improper timing on clear coat. (Too late. Too early.

Look and see what you missed.

phirzcol > random001 06/30/2016 at 14:05

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And that guys arm

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > phirzcol 06/30/2016 at 14:38

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Temperature is all wrong.

Everything was Rustoleum brand.

100 grit followed by 400 grit

Tried to use 600 between coats but it did nothing

I wiped it with a Hustler magazine

Clear was possibly too late because the paint was drying far too fast. As in, it was drying before it hit the car due to the temps in my garage which resulted in me flocking the car more than I was actually painting it. Good job, me.

random001 > phirzcol 06/30/2016 at 14:50

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Yes, yes, that will do nicely...

Die-Trying > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 16:54

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ROLLER...........

Die-Trying > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 17:22

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i have a brindle fender in the works....... started with gold fender, put on a heavy coat of rustoleum brown primer on with a bristle brush, heavy runny coat of rattle can black primer, heavy coat of rustoleum brown primer put on with texture roller, then a heavy coat of grey primer...... hadnt bothered to do any REAL body work to it, because the fender it is going in place of is WADDED up...... i had then over a good number of hours, blocked it “flat/smooth”

not my dog.......but the color inspiration

Frank Grimes > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 06/30/2016 at 20:17

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you wanted gloss but only sanded with 100 grit. dude 80 grit is for shaping body filler and removing paint and most auto paints want like 400-600.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Frank Grimes 06/30/2016 at 20:25

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Did 400 between coats. The 100 was just for prepping the surface and getting the old paint evened out a bit.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 07/04/2016 at 00:48

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Just. Buy. Duplicolor. FFS.

If the sun and humidity is giving you issues, do it in the evening and have some fans nearby to help with drying (point them AWAY from the car - point them outside of the garage if possible).

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 07/04/2016 at 01:02

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Evenings get even more humid. And duplicolor is fuckoff expensive if I screw it up, and I don’t have an HVLP setup to spray it anyways.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 07/04/2016 at 02:23

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I got duplicolor black 12oz cans for about 4$ each. I did all the touchup on my riv with one can. If you want to do the 2-tone then it should be ~15-20$ for primer and paint. You can cheap out on the primer a bit, especially if you get some filler stuff.